3º place - Sultai Midrange Auras Hexproof - 1 copy (3%) Mythic (12) 4Brazen Borrower4Master of Waves4Thassa, God of the Sea. Mono-green Stompy - 2 copies (3%) Go faster than anyone or go taller than anyone. 1st - Bant Spirits: lucadaky. Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. Nykthos has to go...same with either oko/teferi to hurt the cat combo. 75 Cards. Thank you tho. Discussing why a card may be too strong for the format, or concerns to the format being inaccessible due to issues like price is fine, but try to keep things constructive. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). Press J to jump to the feed. 2. [–]Maroonwarlock 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh I've been playing it too along with an 8rack port I brewed. Apologies about the delay, but the newest episode of The Pioneer Perspective is now live! 4Merfolk Trickster4Siren Stormtamer. There's only 4/32 decks playing Felidar Guardian. Give it time, once the most un-fair decks are either banned out/weakened by bans, we'll see room for the mildly un-fair. [–]Maroonwarlock 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (3 children). Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 2020-11-29. [–]McWinSauce 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child). You can see all the different decks that get posted from Magic Online here. Posted by 23 days ago [Pioneer] - Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists (March 22nd) Pioneer. The first official decklist dump is coming up on Monday, so this will help everyone planning on participating in the Pioneer Challenge on Sunday or any Paper events at their LGS. Don't Be a Corpsejack Menace to Society... by G a t t i s o n. PNR 8 / 6 . No general MTG posts. 2. Thanks for the cool list. [–]ShoogleHS 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry. So my problem with this argument is that it seemingly mis-evaluates the problem. This unofficial "decklist dump" is far from complete though, so please let me know of any 4-1 of better decklists you know of and I'll add those to the spreadsheet. Interviewing Paul from PDH committee - the Pauper Commander format, Omnath remains in 50% of Standard Challenge's TOP 32 decklists, Interviewing Brad from Pauper Guild: the Pauper Singleton format. 4 of the top 8 are Monogreen Devotion (including 1st place), and 10 of the top 32 are Monogreen Devotion. [card](Llanowar Elves) (34 copies) It's one of those cards you have to keep your eye on. Pioneer Delirium by BRG24. Sorin and walking ballista reads kill target creature. Spirits. Low-effort posts are subject to removal with an explanation of required changes. Theres also 4 ways ballista can be used because its dual type (delirium enabler) uses counters (hardened scales), scales infinitely (ramp) and is a pinger (removal). But if you polled Spikes on whether they would rather play in a format with either Brainstorm or Ancestral being legal, I bet almost all of them would pick Brainstorm. Second, I don't know if you're out there in Reddit world, but thank you for continuing to jam this sweet Vampires deck to success every week. Saheeli Cat - 9 copies (27%) Mono Green Devotion is getting hit for sure. It's a powerful card. Both are fun. The problem is the combo not the supporting cards. This card was totally fine in standard, and is totally fine in modern where it kills people on turn 4. The only reason he is good is the shell that he is currently in is because of it's ability to make so much mana. Azorius Control. [–]AncientFudge1984 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). PNR 8 / 8 . Big Weaklings [Budget Azorius Jank] by C o r r o s i v e _ C a t. PNR 48 / 26 . Hey, guys! Ive seen some people trying [[Gate to the Afterlife]] and [[God-Pharoah's Gift]]. OUaT is absolutely a busted magic card and it is absolutely homogenizing green decks which is a prime reason Wizards has banned cards in the past. [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. 4 Color Midrange — 495 decklists Goblins — 322 decklists Jund Sacrifice — 291 decklists Red Deck Wins — 260 decklists Gruul Aggro — 189 decklists Sultai Midramp — 162 decklists Artifacts Ramp — 111 decklists Azorius Auras — 110 decklists Get the decklists and a complete metagame overview in our Historic section ☝️ i don't think ballista is even close to the top 20 most powerful cards in this format. If everyone is just casting their spells on their own turn, that reduces the player's options and lessens Spike's ability to conceal information, leverage bluffs, play reactively, and so on. [–]Meecht 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Immortal Servitude - (G) (SF) (txt) 9. Those cards are flexible. [deck](17427) How long before/after this was posted were many of these decks made invalid? StarCityGames.com® is the world's largest Magic the Gathering store, with an inventory that includes an extensive selection of out-of print sealed product and over 20,000,000 individual cards! Sultai Midrange also appeared with a good percentage of wins. I thought before i saw these results Once Upon a Time was likely up first, but it may actually be Nyxthos up first considering the Black list even had them. Thanks! I said it needs to be looked at as a valve. I'm Ariel and this is *All Against Arena. Since the unbanning of Oath of Nissa, I, like many of you, were sort of wary of the format.It turns out, Oath of Nissa might have added more wrinkles to the format than previously thought. Only WotC has access to key data such as play % and win %. Doesn't quite roll of the tongue does it? [–]TrishulaMTG 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). [deck](17429) What kind of backwards idea is that? Stream The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard AND Pioneer by Arena Decklists from desktop or your mobile device. Yeah very true. 10. StarCityGames.com® is the world's largest Magic the Gathering store, with an inventory that includes an extensive selection of out-of print sealed product and over 20,000,000 individual cards! [card](Teferi, Time Raveler) (32 copies) 8. [–]RayWencube 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). SoundCloud The Only Two Decks To Play In Standard ... Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! Like you use it as a metric to see if theres anything broken going on with the format. 13. Forgot about the core set one, [–]Enral 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). Im not entirely sure a Nyx ban is the answer. Gate to the Afterlife - (G) (SF) (txt) UW control - 1 copy (3%) It needs to go. Thank you! Like you said ballista needs hoops, but if a card comes along that pops scales to be really powerful ballista could be a catalyst as to why that deck is really powerful (since it's kind of a swiss army knife) and get a ban. Try to do some metagame testing to get a feel for your deck so you can talk about it better. White Heliod: Phill_Hellmuth. The stream will be casted by yours truly along with my cohost on The Pioneer Perspective, Alex! [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (12 children), I mean I'm sure its lower on the list but I'm sure it was discussed. I am so sad there are no rhino whip decks or dredgeless dredge decks. That's a sort of caricature model of Spike that doesn't really hold up to any real people I've met. Magic: The Gathering and its respective properties are copyright Wizards of the Coast. Yes, Ancestral is way more powerful, but Brainstorm lets Spike showcase their skill. Yeah, and that one time is all it takes to make sure any deck playing it has 3 mana on turn 2 almost all of the time. However, you'll get a much better response if you come across as someone who knows what's up. "We board it out" isn't a great justification for not banning a card. [–]d7h7n -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children). I was testing out some non-oko decks against it when it seemed good, but it is going to be a pretty major issue for the deck. Pioneer really is the format of planeswalkers. Be kind! [–]TrishulaMTG 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). Do you have any mana issues without access to green along with Oath of Nissa or other fixing? Albiet copter was easier to build around, but it was still versatile and was able to do what ever deck wanted to do as a cheap cost. Weekly Metagame - What's the deck to beat? Nissa seems to be shaking pioneer's world right now. Maybe we'll see another swing in deck construction and it'll correct a bit more? New ideas are awesome and always welcome. ", [–]Dimir_Frost_Mage 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children). 11. A showcase challenge is a monthly mtgo tournament that takes the place of the normal challenge except they cost 40 Qualifier Points to enter. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Why ban marquee mythics/rates when you can just ban the cat? 12. This is not the place to post low-effort content, pics of your foiled out deck, sweet booster pack pulls, or general MTG questions/comments. [–]kami_inu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Today! [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), I’m just worried about oko, he just ruins the artifact combos. A card that gets shaved out against removal heavy matchups? 3. Which comes of no surprise considering all the overpowered PWs printed in the last six months. Here's hoping leyline of abundance is the first to go. I missed top 32 on breakers. Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit... Huh, every oponent I've had must each be an anomaly, [–]Aextasis 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Non rotating formats always degenerate into the same pattern. [–]NumberFifteen15 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Tron needs to go off on turn 3..... turn 2 nissa yup seems fair. [–]AncientFudge1984 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (9 children). Hello Everyone! Don't worry, let the format solve itself. Do not use this subreddit to sell or trade. 4 - Posts & comments should be constructive. 1st - Bant Spirits: lucadaky. What pay offs do we have? I don't necessarily expect it to be banned later today but I'd be surprised if it doesn't get banned down the road. Nyx is so dependent on other cards to be good, and all those other cards can have answers- save for walkers. Episode 14: Pioneer Challenge Results and other cards that would be good in Pioneer! But I think that even that's premature as the format may adapt to better deal with the green ramp deck. This sub is for discussion of Magic: The Gathering's Pioneer format. Welcome to MTG decks!.We collect MtG top decks for Standard, Modern, Legacy, Vintage, Pioneer and many other formats. 4 Preliminaries (n=62), 2 Challenges (n=64), 1 Champ Qual (n=32). Be excellent to each other and follow basic reddiquette. [–]Bananadan6 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). No. Lots of Mono G showing up, some cats, some nexus, some RDW. T3feri in play for 1000 turns can’t win the game. T3feri literally changes how the fundamental game of magic is to be played. [–]57messier 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 4. [card](Oko, Thief of Crowns) (35 copies) God Pharohs is cool, but I want a mass reanimation spell or a good reason to cycle shitty creatures. [–]Thereisnocomp2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]Instant-Speed-Scoop 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago (1 child). Legends of Runeterra and its respective properties are copyright Riot Games. 14. I’m playing GB harden Scales and have yet to have mana fixing issues. We received this from a community member, and thought we'd take it into the Challenge (though we were close to just running the UG Nexus deck). © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. 158 decklists and 7 Pioneer events posted since my last ZNR post. 7. [–]PocoTheTurtle 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (19 children), 16 walking ballistas in the top 8 decks. [–]Ahayzo -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children), If they’re being super aggressive, I don’t expect Teferi to last more than a month, Oko isn’t banworthy though (yet). They're clearly not Johnny cards, they make Timmy and Spike angry, Vorthos probably doesn't care if they're tournament legal, so who are these cards for exactly? Really we've only had less than 24 hours to really think about how this deck functions and what it did well versus what it did not. Pioneer Delirium by BRG24. And for the nissa deck, we do have board wipes. I.e. Decklists. PNR 9 / 8 . This deck prays on that type of thought, while still keeping to the 'turning creatures sideways' they may just be tokens! They ended up on Nissa as removal and that in itself is good, but not super dependant. The best deck appears to be Mono green and your input is to bad a white card that kills a separate deck entirely? Thank you everyone for your patience and understanding as we had some scheduling conflicts due to the Holliday as well as a ton of technical difficulties for this episode. [–]Technognomey 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]TrishulaMTG 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (22 children). [deck](17430) I’m playing it. Like if post leyline ban of mono green is still putting up great results and you see ballista as a dump, you might look at nykthos or something that allows the absurd amount of mana to get dumped into it. [–]FluffyWolf2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), TCG Decklist Link: http://bit.ly/fluffyEsperSuperfriends Close. I’d rather see Saheeli go because Felidar still can do interesting things elsewhere, but it’s also the card they screwed up on the templating so it’s the likely hit between that and being a rando uncommon, [–]Existenz81 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). Archived [March 22nd] Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists. This week the guys discuss the newly crowned monarch on the Pioneer throne before heading into the OR for a little deck doctoring on listener submitted deck lists. What is so strong about the late game we have? Boros Feather - 1 copy (3%) r/PioneerMTG: The Pioneer Format of Magic: the Gathering. [card](Felidar Guardian) (36 copies) Sort by: Planeswalker (6) 2 Nahiri, the Harbinger 4 ... Harry13 (2nd Place) bolov0 (3rd Place) mahzinha_linda (4th Place) O_danielakos (5th Place) [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). It's easy, just don't be a jerk. It’s fine in 2 colours. 21. There were 32 decklists. [–]CenturionRower 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (10 children). [Podcast] Crew3 Episode 52 is LIVE! [–]Enral 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child). Red Deck Wins. 4. MTG DECKS by format [card](Saheeli Rai) (36 copies) [–]ShortsAreComfy 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child), Cats and leylines, cats and leylines everywhere, [–]GibsonJunkie 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children). Decklist Stats Sample Hand. [–]Kriznick 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (5 children). *TOP 5 DECKLISTS* This was our first outting with the deck, which I believe showcases its power, we also discuss in one of the matches (may be cut due to editing) how magic has so many lines at times, finding new ones helps us learn! 5. All posts must be relevant to the Pioneer format. Cartel Aristocrat - (G) (SF) (txt) That is more aristocrats than LE style. This Top 10 cards most played represents most of the cards played in "Saheeli Cat" deck. I wish they'd just ban all walkers in Pioneer, now that would make things interesting. All Rights Reserved. Crew the 🛳 Sail the ⛵️ at your opponent Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. 1. Banning Leyline of Abundance is the answer. [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). use the following search parameters to narrow your results: The Pioneer Format of magic the gathering. I commend them for trying to actually make a free spell fair but they missed the mark once again on this one. I mean if you make a list of the top 20 best cards/most powerful cards in pioneer ballista makes that list 100% and you have to discuss those cards as potential bans (in a vacuum) then have to look at why its powerful and see if it's because of another card it seems super strong or is it just because its powerful. [–]Wund3rBoi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). I don’t see that cat combo is an essential part of the format and randomly losing to it feels bad. 2 - Provide ideas with some substance to them. No I completely understand it, I've stated in other comments that I believe it or leyline will get the ban hammer in this format. claudioh (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12206264 on 09/13/2020. Also there are a lot of powerful spells in this format I agree, but not thinking ballista is up there is absurd. It’ll be much better once they reprint the missing fastlands. *TOP 10 most played cards in Pioneer Challenge* (without counting basic lands) I have no idea why everyone is so set on them banning cards. That's alot of different synergies in 1 card, which means it's going to get used a lot, thankfully it was developed to a balanced rate (3 mana and it could be too powerful and 5 mana not useful) so that it can be fairly used. * At 2 mana ballista is draft chaff and at 8 mana he's a bad glorybringer. The deck was the big bet in this tournament. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 2773 on r2-app-0d1711d03db61de53 at 2020-12-02 13:46:51.765288+00:00 running 31b5616 country code: NL. Oh and the dumb card printed called nexus of fate. Top 8. Not to mention, that while it has late game inevitability, I don't think it matches the late game power of mono-green even post banning. 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Bloodchief's Thirst 2 Heartless Act 1 Liliana, Waker of the Dead 3 Necromentia 2 Rankle, Master of Pranks 2 Soul Shatter 2 Soul-Guide Lantern AlfredoTorres (3rd Place) Pioneer Challenge #12223586 on 11/01/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand God damnit dude, seriously? *METAGAME* Its dumb once and that's it. Thank you all so much! Pl Deck Player Price; 1st R R R: ShowTime_ 79 tix $ 88 - 2nd Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation Sultai Reclamation: Harry13: 325 tix $ 395 - 3rd Niv to Light Niv to Light Niv to Light: Xerk: 472 tix $ 466 - 4th Burn Burn Burn: DioMagoSrl: 93 tix $ 158 - … 2 Heartless Act 2 Aethersphere Harvester 2 Agonizing Remorse 1 Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet 2 Legion's End 1 Necromentia 3 Self-Inflicted Wound 2 Soul-Guide Lantern Fastfake (9th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233117 on 11/29/2020 Decklist Stats Sample Hand [–]Jolraels_Centaur_OP 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children), Urza: "With these three lands, I can cast an Ulamog on turn four! Posted by 7 months ago. Top 8. [–]LotusCobra 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (0 children). The Recycling Plant [Mono-Green Artifact Combo] by C o r r o s i v e _ C a t. PNR 20 / 18 . ... It’s a really fun deck, it’s not my main Pioneer deck right now but it’s a great change of pace. I would say that T3feri in particular is a problem card for Spikes since proper spell timing is a big differentiator for skilled players. [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (8 children). 2nd - RW Heroic: _Antoniou_. Spikes hated it when Marvel was a broken deck because whoever gets the first lucky Marvel spin wins the game - there's no outplaying turn 4 Ulamog, and Spikes can't show off the full extent of their skills when piloting such a deck. [–]Ahayzo 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just want to play Esper Gift with Stitcher’s Supplier and Merfolk Secretkeeper, [–]NoxTempus 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), GPG probably can't exist in the same meta as Oko, [–]Bananadan6 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (7 children). They make Spike spend a ton of money to get it and win. [card](Elvish Mystic) (32 copies) What did we see? 3. Also tef3ri just bounces it away, [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]tallandgodless -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (7 children). [card](Botanical Sanctum) (40 copies) If you gave Spike the choice of either a playset of Brainstorm or a playset of Ancestral in their deck, of course they'd go with the Ancestral. It’s fun, but it feels bad. Everything in between eventually gets squashed, [–]badgersauce1770 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I just wanna cast History of Benalia gosh darn it, [–]Stasis20 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (2 children). Decklist with description 🙋🏽‍♂️: “Scuse me sir/madam, I don’t wanna read, how’s it work?” 🤫: “TL:DR: Turn 1 - [[Consulate Dreadnaught]] -big boat⛴, Turn 2 - [[Kroxa]] with triggers on the stack, crew the boat 🛳, then swing with 7/11 🛳, Turn 3 - [[Claim//Fame]] the Kroxa. Take away its ability to help that kind of play and you're left with basically a singular free 2 mana spell and 3 normal 3 mana spells. Rendered by PID 2773 on r2-app-0d1711d03db61de53 at 2020-12-02 13:46:51.765288+00:00 running 31b5616 country code: NL. GB Midrange - 1 copy (3%) Search Results for Magic Decks from MTGO Pioneer Challenge - 10/27/2019. [–]aggr1103 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (2 children). If it was brought up I hope they guy/gal who did so got some side-eye from the people who know better. I literally don’t get people who have it out for T3feri or Oko. Provides digging power, but also providing a threat to act as a 'fog' or 'soak up damage' versus a cantrip, Removal for planeswalkers is limited, and creatures must fight through before your walkers take over, Life total must be recognized as a resource, Combo can just get there against the deck, Go wide strategies may overwhelm the deck (Supreme verdict is here as a 4 of, but if you don't draw it...), 1-1 answering is alright, but you will run out of gas if not careful, Stronger "Counter Control" decks or heavier "Tempo Decks" can give your walkers an issue - Think Brazen Borrower, Spell Queller, and decks of this nature, Match 9: Mono Green Devotion (TacoFarmer - 1st Placer Person). 2 Authority of the Consuls 2 Deafening Silence 2 Deputy of Detention 1 Disdainful Stroke 1 Dovin's Veto 1 Failure // Comply 1 Heroic Intervention 1 Knight of Autumn 2 Mystical Dispute 2 Remorseful Cleric iceiceice (7th Place) Pioneer Challenge #12052914 on 12/29/2019 Decklist … Deck appeared to be weak against the UG Lumbering Falls deck, or hexproof decks as a lot of the removal is targetted. Probabky not enough, [–]tallandgodless -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (11 children). PNR 41 / 18 . 10/29/19 ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. 6. [card](Veil of Summer) (40 copies) In my experience, Spikes will play anything, but what they like is for the format to be conducive to skill-intensive games of Magic where they can outplay their opponent. Sort by: Planeswalker (9) 1 Chandra, Awakened ... Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . Rather than casting a 10 mana spell on turn 3 I'm casting a 5 mana spell and then our turn 4 I'm casting a 10 mana spell, maybe. PNR 1 / 1 . Saheeli was dominant in the field, but appeared poorly in the Top 8. In need of recommendations for a (mono white) Archangel Avacyn Deck! And like stirrings, I believe this will be fine, it's the other cards that enable degenerate and really powerful stuff. [–]hsc92587 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children), Almost like the mana fixing in the format isn’t great or something, [–]AdrianRWalker 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Both of those do really powerful things but the weaker in the vacuum got banned because it was working with other cards to cause an unbalanced series of play. Top 8 earned a championship invite token for a tournament in April. Shit look at what happened between stirrings and looting. © 2018 by Cards Realm. That UW midrange deck has me shook. Yeah closest thing I've seen so far unfortunately. This is actually probably on the table for discussion in regards to bans towards mono green. [–]Saheeli-Rai 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). I think the Dredgeless deck feels solid but yeah some lines are blowouts and I've luckily dodged most of the combo decks in practice queues, [–]WebCobra 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), I've been playing the GB dredgeless list and it feels really solid. If there's any ban at all, it should be leyline. A lot of times people feel the counters are the necessary element of control, and although we have some in the sideboard Pioneer I believe attempts to drive to what Wizards and many viewers like: Interactive, Turn creatures Sideways, Win through damage. We hope to see you all there! 5º place - Saheeli Cat Sunday, Wizards of the Coast published all the decklists from our [link](https://cardsrealm.com/tourners/official/pioneer/2019-10-27/pioneer-challenge)(first Pioneer Challenge). MTG DECKS: Magic the Gathering top 8 decks database. Close. Decklist Stats Sample Hand. Currently only enemy colours have them. If you take a way t3feri, you will still die to the combo as there are other ways of protecting it: in the case of copy cat most of them run 3-4 veil. But it is? 5. Pioneer MTG Decks Visit Pioneer forum ... Budget Challenge: Orzhov Aristocrats by WurmMaster777. Challenge Youtube Matches: https://youtu.be/mZIlMkS9s0I (Uploading/Processing as of this Post - Quality will improve once Youtube finishes processing!). PNR 3 / 3 . Idk, I’m having fun with burn too, but the feeling will pass bc I LOVE living end in modern and I just don’t have as much fun playing other decks. ", [–]Nickypoo_Loves_You 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (5 children), [–]RedBlackX 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]lvlI0cpu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]ShoogleHS 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). People hate on Oko and Teferi but I’m not sure the data says they are ban worthy. [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children). [–]NoxLD 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]Enral 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Journeyman351 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (4 children), [–]CenturionRower 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children). Now supporting MTG Arena decks!. Because it was the first Challenger, many came up with the decks they liked best on Standard or believed to be the best deck. That looks amazing. Ballista is flexible for two things. [–]Res_Novae 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). RB Aggro Pirates Win by Ninjew42. I am truly hopeful that nothing gets banned. The decks we must need to watch are UR Phoenix and Mono-U Devotion. * This is interesting. They are feel bad cards that make timmys/spikes angry but they are probably fine. [1st March] MTGO Pioneer Showcase Challenge Top 32 Decklists. Interesting to see prior to the B&R if these results will make a difference. Real flexibility is something like Jitte, JTMS, the swords, tutor cards. Would be very surprised if the deck didn't lose something today after this weekend. Your comment gives me the impression that you don't quite understand exactly why cheap / free card selection spells have historically been problematic in various formats. Being good in a powerful shell is not the same as being individually powerful. Bant Company - 1 copy (3%) it kills the scales deck instantly, so I hope thats not even close to being considered. God Pharaoh's Gift shenanigans is what I really want to see tbh. As we did last week with Pioneer Decklists To Restore Faith In Humanity, we’re back with more sick Pioneer decklists. 2º place - UR Phoenix White Winnie - 1 copy (3%) [–]heyzeto 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]VideoCook 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). 4º place - Mono-u Devotion [–]skeeler87 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children). Boros … [–]PHOthrowaway88 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]crossjenkins 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Bananadan6 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (21 children). news. The thing is they don’t make Spike angry. Cats did well at first because it's an easy deck to build and everyone knows it's good (it's doing well in modern too right now). I feel like mono green has become the Tron of the format. All bets aside the Planeswalker Super Friend package is seriously powerful, and we noted if you can get [[Teferi, Time Raveler]] into a [[Supreme Verdict]] at instant speed, and follow with [[Elspeth, Sun's Champion]] you're in for a good time! 1. See you tomorrow with more data from the 5-0 Pioneer MTGO tournaments! [–]Tehdougler 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children). Burn - 2 copies (6%) [–]d7h7n 44 points45 points46 points 1 year ago (3 children). [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children), Sorin gives lifelink not deathtouch unless im missing something, [–]Yagoua81 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child), [–]PocoTheTurtle 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Oh,thought it was the war of the spark sorin. [deck](17426) Magic players are good people and will eventually stop playing degenerate shit because I know they, like me, want to cast their Siege Rhinos and Torrential Gearhulks! From Return to Ravnica Forwards. [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]kami_inu 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). it's a finisher that takes an enormous amount of mana or a lot of hoops to make effective. The fast draws seem inconsistent, but the inevitability/late game is pretty good. When posting a deck lists, make a text post linking to a deck building site (Archidekt, Scryfall, MTGGoldfish, TappedOut, etc). and join one of thousands of communities. It acts as a finisher and removal which green lacks, heavily. * This series is all about the presentation, creation and/or adaptation of unusual or unexplored decks that, nevertheless, works great and provides what all games should provides us with: *fun! Dimir Inverter: Thattaman. Theres a reason there were a number of copies in the top 8, shit it's the reason copter was banned. Mono-black vampires - 1 copy (3%) Decklist Stats Sample Hand. Deal Another Hand. All participating copies went to the Top 8. 7. Swiss army knives can do more than one thing, they are very flexible. First off, go Blazers. By comparison, 10/32 are playing Nissa, Who Shakes the World + Once Upon a Time + Leyline of Abundance. Interesting that no mono blue devotion lists made the cut. Even the vampire deck is running it (assuming because of nyxthos), [–]CenturionRower 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (14 children). There have been some [[Rally the Ancestors]] decks floating around that use [[Corpse Celebrant]] and [[Zulaport Cutthroat]] for the kill off [[Cartel Aristocrat]] sacrifices. I want to use Siege Rhinos again! [–]IProto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Being able to fit into multiple types of decks and being a swiss army knife is powerful, not many cards can do that. 41. There is a Dredgeless Dredge it's just much more balanced without the dredge mechanic that it's not good enough to compare to decks like Copycat since a dredge style deck wants to ignore it's opponent but it can't here. [card](Oath of Nissa) (43 copies) [–]Enral 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (4 children). Notes: There are likely many punts, lines, and misplays. We are not here to critique the brew you slapped together without thought. Ballista fits in that role, albiet at a much more fair cost. [deck](17428) Mono-u Devotion - 1 copy (3%) 1 Extinction Event 2 Fatal Push 1 Brazen Borrower 2 Cry of the Carnarium 1 Damping Sphere 2 Enter the God-Eternals 3 Mystical Dispute 1 Nissa, Who Shakes the World 1 Notion Thief 1 Soul Shatter Snusnumrick (2nd Place) Pioneer Challenge #12218059 on 10/18/2020 Decklist … [–]CenturionRower 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children). 8. Sadly. Keep in mind this isn't the actual metagame, but the "winners metagame". Some solid lines of Haunted dead discarding 1-2 amalgam end step is so good, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (10 children). The deck is not dominating. God-Pharoah's Gift - (G) (SF) (txt) You can't just jam ballista in any deck and have it perform. Rally the Ancestors - (G) (SF) (txt) [–]ThisHatRightHere 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]lordofthehomeless 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). The first Mythic Point Challenge has now wrapped up on MTG Arena, a tournament that players who achieved the top 1200 Mythic ranking in the previous seasons were qualified to participate. UG Okrasis - 3 copies (10%) In your post you must also include: A description of your deck/What it intends to do, Specific questions to stimulate conversation. Dimir Inverter: Phizzle. I love Green, but damn I think something is going to have to be banned. This weeks Pioneer Challenge decklists (magic.wizards.com), submitted 1 year ago by FastMoreThanTrain, [–]zealousd 59 points60 points61 points 1 year ago (9 children), Players: "I'm glad Wizards is making a new eternal format that won't have Tron in it. a:15:{i:0;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count";s:2:"20";s:9:"card_meta";O:8:"stdClass":2:{s:5:"title";s:6:"Island";s:22:"field_card_image_front";a:0:{}}}i:1;O:8:"stdClass":3:{s:4:"type";s:4:"land";s:10:"deck_count"; the free 4 mana spell that, with a perfect draw, let's me cast ulamog on turn 3. I really wish there was a deck in pioneer that was like living end. gottelicious (1st Place) Pioneer Challenge #12233113 on 11/28/2020 . Give the meta time to adjust and see what needs to happen over time. 1º place - Sultai Midrange Blanket/low-effort complaints aren't helpful. [–]fubuvsfitch 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]Ertai_87 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children). Be the best deckbuilder, and beat the metagame with the biggest MtG decks database, even bigger than mtgtop8. 9. Back in Black Midrange by DragonzBane. Yes, Spike's priority is winning, and they will absolutely play with broken cards in order to achieve that, but I think it's wrong to assume that Spikes automatically like those cards. Yes they are strong cards but why must they die in pioneer for standards problems. And it itself is only really useful when you know what you need from it. Went 6-3 playing Esper Saheeli. *IS SAHEELI DOMINANT? Yikes, that's a lot of Nissa Who Shakes the World. Weekly Metagame - Is Magic Healthy Again ? [–]tallandgodless 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (13 children). Sultai Midrange - 5 copies (17%) Hello I never said it needed banned? Pinging small creatures, or being a ramp/infinite mana sink. [card](Breeding Pool) (39 copies) I’ll look into lists, but it’s not really my style. Corpse Celebrant - (G) (SF) (txt) [–]wdingo 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (2 children). March 1, 2020. Some people like playing them. [–]ThisHatRightHere 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). Any Abzan lists? Broken? Making it so you cant interact with combos is what is the problem. 10. If this was hearthstone, it would get nerfed from 5 to 4 and probably be fine most of the time. [–]FastMoreThanTrain[S] 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (4 children). [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call, [–]Bananadan6 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Decklists. Rare (27) 4Mutavault4Harbinger of the Tides4Tempest Djinn4Smuggler's Copter3Sorcerous Spyglass4Spell Pierce4Tidebinder Mage. 6. 1039 decklists and 50 events since ZNR released (29 Prelim, 21 Premier). An expensive pinger that can scale inefficiently and fails the vanilla test is not a swiss army knife. 3rd - Kethis: Lein_ 4th - Mono-G Walker Ramp: rusty_gates. There will always be combo decks. The deck is a 'control' deck without the counters. You're doing god's work, sir/madam. The results of the first official Pioneer championship is here now. Every combo deck will play him just to shut down removal / counterspells. Top Pioneer Metagame decks Mono Black. I've been on a Zombies list with a very similar gameplan and an extremely similar sideboard, but Sorin is too hot to be ignored, and so I'm switching tribal teams. Even if the creatures don't cycle at least they're shitty! UR Phoenix - 3 copies (10%) Zulaport Cutthroat - (G) (SF) (txt) Interestingly 7 of the top 8 in this list were mono colored decks, 4 Green, 2 Red and 1 Black. PNR 1 / 1 . [Pioneer] - Pioneer Challenge Top 32 Decklists (March 22nd) Pioneer.