It is hard to avoid those Sony color bands.I can't wait until 10 bit with more Mbps is a standard. And the same sensor is used in Leica’s what is it...$5000 Q2. It will happen, but I agree there are compromises that make FF video more of a challenge. The scores and awards are not linked meaningfully. Packed with advanced features for stills and video, they enter a very … A stop advantage is a stop advantage. @zxaar There are no inferior cameras just inferior photographers. At full resolution the high res image risks looking under-sharpened. Just look at the years where they had no mirrorless competition. Note, people make their own choices despite the reviews, not because of them. Photokina has announced via a press release that after 70 years of shows in Cologne, Germany, it will be indefinitely suspended due to 'decreases in the imaging market’ that have ‘force[d] a hard cut.’. A9 shoots 5fps mech, 20fps with e-shutter and 12bit compressed raw. The adapter will bring full autofocus, aperture control and EXIF data transfer capabilities to Pentax K-mount lenses when used on select Sony E-mount camera systems. We've been shooting with the S1R in a variety of situations, to show what the Panasonic flagship can do. Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R. The S1R ISO 3200 image looks less noisy and more detailed when compared to the standard version. @zxaar - I shoot both FF and MFT, I understand the benefits of having both systems. A dinosaur, already at birth, with better, smaller, less costly competitors with many more native lenses eating its lunch. The a7iii when paired with lenses is not such great value. The A7R III Panasonic tried to compete with now costs 2500$ And if you don't need AF and are ok with slightly worse base ISO performance that actually sound exactly like a 1700$ A7R II. Way worse. If continuous AF is a real world factor for any user I would certainly not recommend a high count sensor for many reasons in real world use. it means you are saying that dslrs are better than mirrorless. The EVF screen resolution sounds wonderful. In addition, it can shoot UHD 4K video at up to 60p. A battery grip (DMW-BGS1) is available for around $350. I agree. Seems to be getting a like warm reception. The A7R II outperformed the D810 in many key areas. If you need good continuous AF or a do everything camera there are better options from pretty much any camera with PDAF, but where still subjects are being photographed I am impressed with the accuracy of the AF and I have been pleasantly surprised by my Panasonic m43 cameras for night photography (still subjects). And so the user base for Panasonic FF will remain tiny if the S1H is what they're all waiting for. "89% close to gold"???? For my needs, the 5dsr I guess is "better" than any camera currently on offer by Sony. vs. Panasonic Lumix DC-S1R. I wanted to get one as I liked the camera and the high-res mode and also always liked the Panasonic colors. They understand their place in the market, where their products sit vs the competition. Haha. Anyone familiar with software knows it is very likely improving DFD with firmware is possible since it is driven by software and check focus 200-400 times a second. Your most recent reply has 2 links. @ pro photo 2011 - no what doesn’t make sense is you fail to understand that the A7iii is a consumer FF oriented camera. This Leica is demonstrably not a Canon or Sony, but got a gold. Ultra-high-quality video is easier than ever. The Panasonic S1R is a high resolution, full-frame camera that's here to take on the Nikon Z7 and Sony A7R III. Oh, and it's a lot of fun too. The Panasonic Lumix S1R is manufactured by Panasonic and was added in January 2019 in the Digital Cameras section This product has a rating of 4.5 out of 5 The best price of the Panasonic Lumix S1R in Australia is $3,574.00 at BecexTech In Australia this product is available in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane I like cameras with more distinct controls and good tactile feedback and the S1R certainly achieves that. For heavy lenses, less total mass means that the camera can be operated handheld for longer periods. "==>Not sure if u have seen a top LCD. I can imagine in the next couple of years it will surpass DSLR in most if not almost all situations. If you want to learn more about the Panasonic Lumix S1R then we have a detailed breakdown of all its specs here. Nikon Z7. RubberAs I wrote , you go by hearsay and are able to read a review, but your analysis of the content falls flat to the ground.The D810 produces great image quality in almost all cases.No stars and stripes like some other cameras. As someone said DxO lists this one 3rd behind 2 medium format cameras for overall IQ. When you factor in that it won't suffer from banding/striping image quality artifacts one has to wonder if it actually has MORE useable dynamic range for working pros than a A7riii, A7riv, Z7 and other mirrorless bodies that can suffer from imaging artifacts because of PDAF.On the point of FPS, why did the review hit the S1R for 'only' having 6fps when it shoots at full 14bit raw. These inconsistencies always make me leery of the studio scene, as much as I love using it for comparisons. And honestly, when you have Sony GM lenses or alike, it's not the extra bulk of the camera that changes anything. Duh.... By the way if you actually used the Sony, you’d know the top of the camera is not where the heat is dissipated. I don't own Pana but I played with it in the stores... the IQ and colour is actually good... to my surprise. Also you seem to have never shot with an A7R II. Your example of a screen lighting up and disrupting a performance is not a credible one. That's more than a little bit sad. The Panasonic LUMIX S1R has an integrated 5-axis body image stabilisation that can be combined with the 2-stop optical image stabilisation of LUMIX S Series lenses for steady and clear images. the post focus function and the 6K pre capture is unique for a FF. Mbps is relative to source. You fail to see that different format systems compliment others and allow different approaches to photography. As far as my "switching" to mirrorless... to "increase your keepers".. With the subject matters I shoot.. my "keepers" are at around 90%. Because the A9 is an out and out sports camera. It was the best. Apparently, the majority of consumers deemed the a7 III to be a better buy in terms of value and all-around capability. If it's something you're worried about, just take advantage of it and buy the discounted cameras. If you need a general purpose camera the A7 III does 90% of the A9 and has better DR to boot. They are priced at $2299, $1299 and $1699, respectively. @zxaar.. where did I write that my 5dsr is "better than best of the line Sony mirrorless". Same with Fujifilm which had to drop the price of its X-H1 from $1699 body-only to $1199 body+battery grip. So the usp is the class leading AF tracking and high iso performance. for example not all dslrs are better than sony's top of the line mirrorless and it's not subjective with definition of better being better image making device. Unless you want a particular experience. Sigma's new primes promise very good performance and light weight, when paired with L-mount and Sony E-mount mirrorless interchangeable lens cameras. Also funny that you ignore all the other points. Yes, best MIRRORLESS autofocus.. certainly not the best autofocus.DSLR far ahead. The scores and awards are not directly linked. It uses the L-mount originally developed by Leica and supports Leica lenses as well as lenses from Sigma and Panasonic. I really just wish I could afford *any* camera with these levels of performance! The new Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift lens lets you go wide with perspective control. Dpreview even gave the award of best camera of the year to the a7r2. In the following categories the Sony scores higher, hence it's higher overall score and medal. True alternative fact poetry. Also it was competitive with the DSLR competition back then. An it was the only competition. The 50/1.4 alone costs £800 more than the Sony equivalent. We're glad you asked. It’s a ricoh camera with a oentax logo that ricoh is licensing from Hoya. But what you call under-sharpened to me looks more like it has way more problems than that, it has weak black levels and muddiness, or less resolution compared to the first link which has more pop... something I can't put my finger on but isn't quite right. sensors are now great even My dated k5iis still produces amazing results. There's the $3K D850, or this Pany. 20.0fps vs 9.0fps: 11 fps faster : Battery Life. DPReview TV: Panasonic S1R vs. Nikon Z7 vs. Sony a7R III, DPReview TV: Panasonic S1R hands-on preview in Barcelona, DPReview TV: 10 cool things you may have missed about the Panasonic S1 and S1R Series. In Nikon's case, they were designing their Z bodies to compete with 2nd or 3rd gen Sonys. "None of the cometitors had even 4k video".. and neither did Sony..without overheating within minutes. As for owning Nikon, I have never owned a Nikon digital camera, but I've owned two 'FF' film ones - as I told you before we've even owned the same camera - the Nikonos IVa. Before that camera, mirrorless were inferior in IQ and AF, but the R2 had better IQ than any FF DLSR, and also a great AF and even a very good Eye AF ... in 2015!! vs. Nikon Z50. It is not. The point of a review like this is that people actually used it and liked it—a lot. I think Pentax just rolled out its full frame as a fan service for its loyal users more than enticing newcomers into their system. Panasonic’s AF technology features advanced recognition capabilities. @kodacolor200: "The G9 and X-H1 where far more aimed at high end users already invested in the systems. The S1R by contrast cancels the Bayer filter and increases resolution to 187MP. The Panasonic S1R renders resolution well in its standard mode, but its eight-shot high-res mode extends this into medium format territory (for appropriate subjects). If I need the advantages of FF I use my D850 for those applications. And of course far far cheaper than the A9. I brought his attention to another camera model.. with what I consider (at it's time) a far longer/severe list of negatives, scoring higher. There's also the option to use existing Leica's SL lenses, its APS-C 'TL' series and a range of Sigma's 'Art' lenses that it has announced for the L mount. We didn't find many wizards or scarecrows, but we did see plenty of lizards and landscape scenes along the Australian coast. @edn80 if you need 4k60p, then you don't want the S1R. Taille du capteur : Plein format CMOS 35 mm. It appears Sony will remain on the leading edge for quite some time. I never said I was into shooting video. some of us shoot multiple formats and understand the pros and benefits of large format and small format cameras. The Pixel Shifted image looks WORSE than the non shifted image for some reason. Those buying a G9 or Fuji were far more likely heavily invested in lenses and well aware of trade offs re: sensor size.". That would have happend even without competition. Oddly enough, the lower res sensor K-1 II Normal image still looks better than both of those Panny images at iso3200. Do you mean in the studio comparison tool? Yet scored “better” than all the competition. Comparaison de prix. All of these some of the main things you need in photography.You guys should really revise your rating system or rename yourself digital videography review. I’m talking about the professional market. The controls are all in the right place and the UI is as close to perfect as you will find. vs. Nikon D850. It's not nice to predict the demise of a product but it's hard to see how the S1r can be sold in its current form at its current price point. If Panasonic and Fujifilm did not adjust down their prices for the G9 and X-H1, respectively, they would be selling a lot fewer cameras. ODR Panasonic hiver 2020. Canon charge a premium , Nikon to a certain degree. Today is no different at DPR than back then! No firmware update will fix the inferiority of the contrast-detect autofocus system. It does light up when u half press and is a very dim light good enough to read the display but hardly any bright to distract anyone. Period. There are times and situations that my MFT will give me far more than a stop advantage over FF with its far superior IBIS. You're right, it's clearly not the case. The Panasonic S1R, or Lumix S1R to give it its full title, is big, hefty and solid and feels like it means business. Still waiting for you to explain the benefits of Nikon's 'larger mount' in this thread:https://www.dpreview.com/news/2661937334/nikon-s-nikkor-z-85mm-f1-8-s-to-ship-in-september?comment=5984282079Please don't keep us waiting too long. The only autofocus lens that I've tested so far that approaches if not equals the Otus 55 (on a D850) is the Lumix S 50. And the stupidity of declaring that CDAF is always "unreliable" is amazing, especially since even most mirrorless systems using PDAF rely on CDAF for the final and most accurate part of focusing. Also, in today's camera market, I don't think it's a good idea to be coming out with these uber-expensive cameras. The Lumix S1R is one of the most capable cameras ever made, from its robust build to extensive feature set. Effective IBIS in the S1 will expand the usable shooting envelope vs the Sony in real world use. Still, seems like a long shot but if they can get people to rent one it might catch on. I shoot with a 5DSR by the way. the 5dsr is not better than best of the line Sony mirrorless.mirrorless might not have caught with dslrs (even if one grant you this) , your dslrs isn't better than mirrorless has to offer. The Olympus OM 1's USP was it's diminutive size and cameras like the Pentax MX were directly targeted at pros. Other features include an ultra-high-res EVF, double-hinged LCD and dual memory card slots (SD and XQD). It doesn't matter if a camera is intended for the consumer or the professional, if the camera can't focus reliably, it's a no go. "A stop certainly is significant in real world use. I got to hold one in the store.They feel more soild than my Sony and the grip is much easier to hold. If you are looking for cheap L-mount standard prime lenses, the recently released Sigma 45mm f/2.8 DG DN Contemporary Lens ( B&H / Adorama ) is the best choice. Announced in September 2018 and previewed in February 2019, it’s one of two bodies launched by Panasonic as part of its L-mount alliance with Leica and Sigma. It’s only until recently that the AF systems on Sony’s have been considered good. I think it's really trying to go head to head with medium format where AF speed is also rather deliberate but accurate. Why are you arguing about the A7rII - a camera launched over 4 years ago and superseded by two models - in a thread on the S1r. 2) And now even Sony seems to have come round to that, in the fourth iteration of their A series bodies, though still not good enough. IMO. There are two new cameras with two different sensors. Sony's a7R4 $3500 pricing and superior autofocus in both stills and video will force Panasonic to adjust the price of its S1R downward. But not there yet. The LUMIX S1R is designed to help the photographer deliver their vision. The second link that you call full res and you say looks under-sharpened is what I experienced from using the embedded comparison in the article. The rear camera (or cameras) on an iPhone has all the latest bells and whistles, but how do you use them to capture a selfie or record a video of yourself? This guy was painful to watch. I think the video in the G7 is even better than the R4. But the current scoring system took a long time to implement, and the next one will also take some time to engineer - it's something we're working on, around continuing to keep up the pace of our reviews as much as we can. Professionals don’t. Hence the ongoing attention of Nikon and Canon for the shape and height; accomodating your pinkie as well) of their grips; even minute changes make a difference. I never stated one was better if you actually read my comment. Max ISO. I cannot disagree more with this:"It's big and heavy, you will probably not bring it with you all the time". We're talking about the here and now. Check out the winners of the 2020 DPReview Awards! Panasonic has released the LUMIX Webcam Software (Beta) for Windows / Mac, a one-stop webcam software making it possible to use an applicable LUMIX camera as an webcam for purposes such as live streaming or video conferencing. Not my cup of tea but good to see more competitors in the market. Voilà les remises possibles. I couldn't find the S1 or S1R in the top 100, but there are m43 Panasonic cameras there, so I guess the youtuber audience is keeping Panasonic in the camera business. Anyway this is a useless test. The Panasonic Lumix S1R. The A7iii is aimed at entry level buyers looking to either move to FF or upgrade their current A7 body. About 5 dozen models all with minor changes and a completely skewed naming scheme. Technically ahead of the game, though, in some ways. Thanks I prefer to set the basics of my camera settings before I put the camera to my eye and just make small adjustments afterwards. This enormous offering produces high dynamic range and an extremely impressive low-light performance. vs. Nikon Z7. The Canon RF 800mm F11's unique combination of telephoto reach, affordability and light weight will likely enable even more people to do the same. 2019 saw plenty of new cameras released, some of which were very important - and seriously impressive. Is this the same image you're talking about? We took a look at the field and selected the Panasonic S1H and GH5 as the best cameras for serious videographers. I like a top plate display too. The S1R is particularly suitable for portrait and landscape photographers as well as pro photographers who shoot weddings, fashion and commercial products, particularly where high-resolution images are needed for making poster-sized enlargements. I think that counts for a fair bit. Haha. Sony has learnt that with the A9. Though position. @pro photo 2011again you are spreading falsehoods. Technical Editor Richard Butler's pick was the unusual lens that gave him the opportunity to try something new. The S1 features a 47MP sensor, in-body shake reduction that works in conjunction with stabilized lenses, and Panasonic's Depth from Defocus contrast-detect AF system. For example, the S1, S1R and S1H will inherit the … If you're honestly saying that you need to see said information on a top plate display rather than an EVF you're convincing no-one. You spend a lot of time dumping on MFT yet it seems you have very little experience with the system to make and valid comment. The A7IV will not impact pricing of the S1R very much if at all. The S1R has a multi-shot high resolution mode, which delivers 187MP Raw files. What complete nonsense. People say that they don't really need the advanced AF system but for 2019, this has become a standard that even lower cost models such as A6400 and XT30 already have these features.